Janet: Hello Sandie!
Sandie: Hello!
Janet: I'm really excited to be able to talk to you about the New Children! Tell me about them. When did they start arriving, and how are they different than previous generations?
Sandie: There are various reports about when they started arriving. Some even call Christ one of the Crystal Kids!
Janet: Wow!
Sandie: Lee Carroll says the Indigos actually started coming about 48-50 years ago--what they call Indigo scouts and elders. Steve Rother says the Crystal elders have been here awhile, but the little ones are only just now coming in. Some Crystal elders and Indigo elders did not know who they were for a long time. They just knew they did not fit in with everyone else. But Nancy Ann Tappe said she started noticing in the early 1980s the new 'indigo' color in the auras of some kids being born. There is a lot of controversy and difference of opinion over the Indigo/Crystal question though.
Janet: By way of background for readers unfamiliar with these authors, who are Lee Carroll, Steve Rother, and Nancy Ann Tappe?
Steve Rother runs the LightWorker Corporation. He is very popular with his Paths to Empowerment seminars. Steve is a channel (the Group), and has published two books which have been translated into many languages. He is best friends with Lee Carroll, and Steve has also channeled at the UN to groups of staff who are part of an enlightenment society there.
Nancy Ann Tappe is an incredible woman. She wrote a book in 1982 called Understanding Your Life Through Color. It's the first time the Indigos were mentioned. The book classified certain kinds of human behavior into color groups. Nancy has synesthesia, which is a medical condition in which the senses are mixed up. People can taste sounds, etc. Her thing is to see colors in auras, which other people can do, too, of course. Nancy used to teach at a couple of San Diego universities, so she is no flake.
Janet: How many different colors did she notice?
Sandie: In her book she goes into many different colors. I haven't counted them, although I do have the book somewhere. But she particularly noticed this indigo color with the new kids. Up until the 1980s, she had a feeling that two more colors were going to be added because she says we had two disappear: the Fuchsia disappeared and the Magenta became obsolete. So she thought they would be replaced. Then she says she was shocked to find one person in Palm Springs who was a Fuchsia. She thought it had gone out in the early 1900s. It was while she was looking for the 2 new colors that she 'saw' the indigo. Actually, she says the first time was pre-1975. She started labeling it in the 1980s, and then started what she calls the Personology Process. Because by then there were kids 5, 6, 7 years old that she could work with. She says the major thing she learned was that these kids did not/do not have a syllabus like the rest of us. She also said in Lee Carroll's Indigo book that they still don't have a syllabus and won't for another 5 years or so. At about the age of 26-27, we will see a big switch with the Indigo children. Their purpose will be here then.
Janet: And they'll know it?
Sandie: The older ones will get really solid in what they are doing - so yes I guess so. The younger ones will come in with a clearance on what they are going to do in life.
Janet: What are some traits of Indigos? How are they different?
Sandie: She says they are technological children - surprise surprise. They are born for technology. She thinks they are opening a gate and that we are going to get to a point where nothing has to be labored over, except within our heads. She also said that environmental training has blocked some of them so that they kill. She believes in paradox, the light and the dark. We need it in order to have choice. Without choice there is no growing she says.
Janet: So when Indigos are cornered--not given choice, they get aggressive?
Sandie: Yes they can. Interestingly though, Nancy Ann says we have had extremes up until now: Dark versus light. The holiest of holies and the most evil of evils. Most of us fit somewhere in middle, aspiring to be holy while making mistakes. What she sees now is that extremes are becoming more integrated. The holiest of holies are becoming average people, and the evil of evils are becoming average people. The balance is reaching a more refined level. She calls the indigos that have killed Conceptualists. Their path was clear, but their mission got blocked. So they tried to get rid of what was blocking their path. She says our generation was afraid. Indigos are not. They are fearless because they believe in themselves. Nancy Ann says 90% of children under 12 are Indigos. There are 4 different types of Indigos: Humanist, Conceptual, Artist and Interdimensional.
Nancy calls these kids our bridge between the 3rd and 4th dimension, though others say we are already in the 5th.
Janet: Would you briefly explain the dimensions?
Sandie: Steve Rother talks a lot about the dimensions--about how when we become incarnate, we travel through them and don the veils of forgetfulness. The 5th dimension is where a lot of the Crystal kids are supposed to be able to travel. Interestingly, he also says that as the Crystal kids come in (and he says they are not crystals in the literal sense but have the crystal vibration), more and more of us will start to become Crystalline, too. If we are either Crystal scouts or elders, this will become more apparent and our Crystalline gifts will too
Janet: How are Crystals different from Indigos?
Sandie: Quite different temperamentally and physically. Children of the Crystal vibration are very sensitive and very vulnerable. They have a gentler energy. Very psychically aware--interdimensional beings. They have systems that cannot cope well with some of our stuff, like the vaccinations, meat, pollution, etc. That's why they say there is more incidence of Autism. The biology of these new kids seems to be different. Many Crystal kids are choosing--and I mean choosing as in telling their parents from an early age-- that they want to be vegetarians. The nutritional connection is very important. Take dyslexia for example. In our first issue, we had a Doctor of nutrition talk about the connection between dyslexia and essential fatty acid intake. Trials have shown that when you give your kids more EFA, their symptoms improve. When kids with ADD/ADHD are put on special diets, they improve. Enzymes are doing wonders with Autistic kids. In our next issue, we'll be featuring a Psychologist who has 2 boys with Autism. After years of going through hell, she put them on enzymes. Overnight, their symptoms improved dramatically. These new children are also sensitive to pesticides and all the other things that are put into the soil, which affects the foods they eat.
Janet: I was just going to ask about that.
Sandie: Also, it appears that Crystals take time to learn to deal with the lower vibrational energies, since they are vibrating at a higher level. They have no concept or frame of reference for fear. They have an innate understanding of unity consciousness, and a high level of emotional empathy. If they experience a lot of fear coming from those around them, they don't know what to do with it. They just reflect it back.
Janet: Explain low vibrations.
Sandie: I think lower vibrations means things like fear and anger—negative emotions. Steve Rother says they have looser etheric bodies. This means they can easily become vulnerable to influences that can push them outside of their bodies. They have psychokinetic abilities, and can manifest things more easily--spoon benders, etc. They can move things with their mind
Janet: In her book What Color Is Your Aura?, Dr. Barbara Bowers mentions that Crystals have a "clear" aura, which means they can get easily overwhelmed by others, especially crowds, and even "take on" another's personality. Would this be how Steve sees Crystals?
Sandie: Yes indeed. He describes them as being allergic to fear. When they feel it around them, they reflect it back—and magnify it in the process. So we get scared of them and their abilities, just like in the film Powder.
Janet: Ah! Yes.
Sandie: We don't understand, so it brings out our worst fears. They also have difficulties with electricity. If they are angry, off center, or aware of fear, the Crystals will reflect those energies back and amplify them, and this can blow electrical gadgets and light bulbs. They are not used to the man-made wave form of alternating current. Steve says in the next few years, there will be many Crystal walk-ins--incarnating as adults carrying the Crystal vibration. Many Crystal elders who have been 'in hiding' so to speak will start coming forth. Steve also says the more kids come in, the more Crystal elders come out of hiding, the more this will trigger these same attributes in others.
Janet: Would you explain the concept of walk-ins for those unfamiliar?
Sandie: Walk-ins are supposed to be souls or spirits who agree to come into a fully formed adult body; the adult who chooses to leave agrees to vacate the vessel and the walk-in takes over. I can't say yea or nay to that. My own personal view is this: I believe that walk- ins are merely parts of our own higher selves that we, on some level, choose to integrate with our physical selves at certain stages in life. I have a friend that I believe this happened to. She is still her 'self', but is so much more.
Janet: Parts of us that are fragmented and scattered?
Sandie: Perhaps. Some call that soul retrieval. I happen to think that when we come here, we only come with a part of our true selves. We are connected to our higher self, which knows so much more than we do and is capable of a lot more--but it is not always a good thing or appropriate for us to bring all those aspects here with us. We might be too powerful, and it might not help us facilitate our lesson. However, I believe that as we progress and raise our own vibrational level, we then become capable of integrating more, and then we connect with more of our higher self and can ground it in the physical. Some people call this ascension. Some call it waking up.
Janet: Do Indigos and Crystals differ in purpose?
Sandie: It is said that the Indigos are the systems busters; their purpose is to shake things up, and change paradigms in order to make way for the Crystal kids--to make it safe for them, so to speak. The Crystals are more of what we all aspire to become--the gentler more loving energies. But this world would not be a safe place for their gentle energies unless we started changing things. They would not survive.
Janet: Which is why the adults are in "hiding"? It reminds me of the prophets in the Old Testament that had to live in caves and hang around their "own kind", often for fear of death.
Sandie: Yes. The thing that puzzles me is that there are many contradictions about purpose, about the different types of kids, etc. Personally, I hate the labels. I think once we start labeling, we are stereotyping and pigeon holing. We are also creating exclusivity. "My kid is a Crystal", etc. That's why when we started the magazine we called it Children of the New Earth. I think all the kids are special. In the same way some of us choose to be born in China and others the U.S.--some are black, white, yellow, red--so we will get all kinds of kids.
Janet: Labels are great shorthand, but when it goes beyond that into an Ego/"better than" thing, it seems pretty contrary to the whole point of these New Children, doesn't it?
Sandie: Absolutely! The more we put qualities and attributes on the types, the more we exclude some. So what happens to them? I prefer to call them just "children of the new earth". We are evolving. We've been doing it for millennia. Now everything is speeding up. We have discovered more and progressed more in the last 25 years than probably in the last 250. The more we learn, the more we do, the more we grow, the more we stimulate the growth of new neural pathways. Think of it like this: before man could run the 4 minute mile it was considered inconceivable. Once someone did it, more became capable of doing it.
Janet: The 100th monkey theory.
Sandie: Yes, the 100th monkey theory. So, the more we grow and learn, the more capable we become of growing and learning even more. The more neural pathways we make, the greater access we have to parts of ourselves and our brains that are capable of more than we used to be--or thought we were. The kids are the result. This is not to say it's totally pragmatic. I think that the only way we could achieve the “grand plan” from a spiritual perspective is to have things happen to our biology. We live in a physical world, so the capabilities have to be reflected in our physical bodies. It was never about suddenly growing wings, becoming see through, using 90% of our brain overnight and all floating in the ethers--it doesn't work that way. It has to be so down to earth that it seems like evolution. It would be too frightening otherwise. That's what I believe is happening; only it's happening faster than ever before in our history. Because of the rising incidence of problems that we are seeing, though they are not really problems, it is forcing society to change things--so it is happening in a very pragmatic way. This is ascension--not having a starship land and carry us all off to never never land.
Janet: What are some of the changes that you think Indigo/Crystal energy are bringing about? What wants to come forth?
Sandie: Exactly what is coming forth. A changing awareness. A growth in our capacities on every level. Greater access to more of our natural powers. Changing consciousness. Moving towards more loving natures. Like Nancy Ann Tappe said, the holiest of holies are now the "you and me's" of the world.--not the saints.
Janet: Everyday mystics.
Sandie: Yes. This is who we truly are. There are more psychics around now than ever before in history. This is normal, really, but now we can display it more openly.
Janet: And these new children are incredibly psychic.
Sandie: Yes.
Janet: Spirituality is becoming how we work, how we conduct our relationships--how we live. It's moved out of religion and church buildings.
Sandie: Yes. It’s becoming acceptable as part of who we are. It's moved back where it always belonged--in the realm of the individual. People are no longer afraid to use the word--to accept that spiritual does not have to mean a churchgoer in the traditional sense. In the Gnostic tradition, it is about having a personal relationship with the divine--not one that is brokered through a third party like a church.
Janet: Yes!
Sandie: Truly, I believe we are all the sons of God; we are all little sparks of the divine--not the sheep or the children that an omnipotent God has to shepherd. God is within us, not within the walls of a building with a cross on the roof.
Janet: Jesus said the Kingdom doesn't come through observation, but is within.
Sandie: More of us are willing to accept that we also have a spiritual side to our natures. We don't need to be ashamed of it. Spirituality is becoming mainstream.
Janet: Or relegate spirituality to Sunday mornings.
Sandie: Exactly!
Sandie: Both audiences. It's just that the 'new age' audience will get it without too much explanation. The mainstream audience might not like the spiritual aspects but will be hungry for the practical information because they know their kids are different.
Janet: How did this new endeavor come about?
Sandie: It came about because there has always been a section called Children of the New Earth on PlanetLightworker. The more I watched the traffic grow to that section and the more letters came begging for information and help, the more I realized that the books weren't coming out fast enough to feed the need--that there had to be one centralized authoritative source of information that covered all topics, all dimensions of the kids: the nutritional, educational, physical, psychological and the spiritual. This is who today's children are. We cannot afford to ignore any aspect of their beings; more than anything I am passionate about the kids. They are our future. If we take care of them they will take care of the planet and the future generations. They are the guardians of our future. We cannot afford to let them suffer because society is afraid of the changes it is witnessing
Janet: Has the medical community noticed these New Children? Are they receptive to their needs?
Sandie: Some, yes. More and more mainstream medical people are seeing the difference. The psychologists and the teachers, too. It is becoming more widely accepted to offer complementary therapies--o look outside of the box for answers and solutions. The best thing of all is it is the kids themselves who are forcing these changes upon us. In the 1960s the flower power generation --the baby boomers-- were the ones to force change. Today, it is the kids. I get calls all the time from parents saying they would never have given any room to spiritual stuff, but their child is different—and they had to start looking elsewhere for answers. I've seen grandparents, who were dyed in the wool pragmatists, open up to spirituality because of their grandkids. It is astonishing and it is wonderful to see.
Janet: Incredible.
Sandie: I say that there is a revolution going on and it is being led by the kids--kids changing the world for kid.s Kids changing adults for the sake of the kids. Beautiful!
Janet: Yes, it is. As parents, when your child is psychic and deeply affected by fear, something has to change.
Sandie: Absolutely. It is all so perfect.
Janet: "A little child shall lead them."
Sandie: You got it!
Thank you so much, Sandie, for sharing your insights and your vision for the children of the Earth--and for letting us know about this exciting magazine!
Sandie's Bio
A British journalist, editor, and author, Sandie's career has spanned virtually every aspect of the media. Her work has appeared in numerous national newspapers and numerous magazines in the UK and abroad.
She has extensive experience in the British magazine publishing, advertising and direct marketing industries. In addition to conceiving, designing, creating and launching a number of new magazine titles and special edition supplements for a variety of publishing houses, she also acts as an editorial/marketing/publishing consultant to several of the largest and most successful Direct Marketing companies in Europe.
The author of 6 books published by major international publishing houses, Sandie has appeared frequently on television in Great Britain, and has been interviewed on all the best known radio stations throughout the UK, including the BBC World Service. Her books have been translated into German, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian and Chinese.
Since relocating to the US Sandie has combined her marketing, advertising and publishing consultancy work with launching and conceiving the popular online monthly magazine, www.planetlightworker.com which now has a loyal following in 40 countries around the world, and the brand new, cutting edge 132-page, glossy, subscription magazine, Children of the New Earth, which is already gaining a loyal following in the US, Canada, Australia, Holland, and the United Kingdom.
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